Sunday, July 20, 2008

big WORDS!

According to Brydon and Scott (2007) "People who hope to influence us choose specific words and phrases to maximize the chance that we will interpret their messages as they intend them to be interpretted" (p. 254).

1. Use the word rhetorical in a flourishing sentence that shows you understand the definition.
2. Tell us about a big talker in your life--someone who uses a flashy vocabulary and/or name drops to impress people. Does it work or just make them look goofy?
3. Is using big or flashy language or insider-jargon in a speech inclusive or immediate? Re-Read chapter 10 and get ready for a quiz...????!!!! Oh the mystery! Smiles--Sandra

References
Brydon, S. & Scott, M. (2007). Between One and Many. " 6th Ed.: Chapter 10. McGraw-Hill: New York.

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am amazed by how fast the new blog comes up.

"1. Use the word rhetorical in a flourishing sentence that shows you understand the definition."

- We use rhetorical question every day. We persuasive someone to do something. If you work at restaurant or any kind of business field, you want the customer to buy your products more, so you suggest about your new product or food and such. You need to be rhetorical person to become more succeed person.

2. "Tell us about a big talker in your life--someone who uses a flashy vocabulary and/or name drops to impress people. Does it work or just make them look goofy?"

- There was a guy in my Chemistry class, and I added him on facebook. His blogs is nothing but loads of flashy vocabulary words, but full of ...something, most of the replies disagreed with him. However, he thinks he is smart and win the debates and such. No one wins the debate. Which means, it doesn't work!

3. "Is using big or flashy language or insider-jargon in a speech inclusive or immediate?"

- I think it's immediate because there might be a barrier between the speaker and the audience of any kind of knowledge.

And, we have a QUIZ? Good to know.

- Min Sohn

Anonymous said...

The posh celebrity displayed his conceited attitude by frequently stopping mid-stroll with rhetorical model poses.

- Daniel Nguyen

Anonymous said...

2. My friend Richard is a big word talker, he frequently uses ridiculous words in conversations and actually I am one myself. I believe it's a double bonus for us, we use these words to increase our vocabulary as well as help us display our fun nature. however i usually only use big words around him haha

3. most of the time i believe flashy language is immediate because if people don't understand the words then it really isn't inclusive isn't it?

-Daniel Nguyen

Anonymous said...

I was influenced by his rhetoric nature and decided to perform an act of sheer compassion.
-Terence Kelley

Anonymous said...

1. Some people like to blabber in class, asking a bunch of rhetorical questions, just to get people annoyed. :b jk
2. My younger brother tries at times, but he usually misuse them!
3. Sometimes using words too fancy can take away from the message depending on the audience because if they don't understand them then they will not understand the message.

---zoey pha---

Anonymous said...

1. The advertiser is successful at using a rhetorical beginning to catch my attention and follow through the end of the commercial.
2. My boyfriend is one of the big talkers in my life. My big brother is the second one. It just makes them look more goofy, because sometimes I don't even get what they're trying to say.
3. I personnally think if a speaker uses flashy words, his/her speech will just become immediate because there is a disconnection between the audiences and the speaker themselves.

~TRINH HUYNH~

Anonymous said...

1. To attract more customers, the restaurant has now put up a rhetorical sign in front of the restaurant.
2. I think I'm a big talker sometimes. I often had to teach my sister and my girlfriend. Sometimes I got carried away with those flashy words which made them go like 'huh?'. I think those words made me look goofy as I did not consider 'audience analysis'.
3. It's immediate, unreasonable and unnecessary to use flashy words in our speech as we might throw off some of our audiences because they might not be able to understand our presentation clearly. Instead it'd be better if we use words (even technical language) which can be understood easily.
TUNG LE

Unknown said...

Will rhetorical questions about paying the high prices for gas ever persuade people to make changes in the way we use our motor vehicles?
This may be no surprise to anybody but I am the one for using big words and if I can't think of a word to describe something I will just make one up myself. I have friends that use those 25 cent SAT words and we make it a friendly competition. Uncommon words can make a conversation more interesting and keep people interested in what you are saying. Over exagerating phases and words can help influence and persuade the people you speak with. Keep a playful mind with persuading people to buy into your ideas.

Christopher Lee

Anonymous said...

Christopher,

"I have friends that use those 25 cent SAT words and we make it a friendly competition."

Epic LULZ.

I hated those words.

Anonymous said...

1. We've all used rhetorical questions in one of our speeches to get our audience to think without answering out loud =P.

2. My co-worker is always using flashy words. I think it's so annoying that every other word that comes out of his mouth is a big word. I don't think it works. If every other word coming out of your mouth is flashy it just makes you look you're trying too hard.

3. Immediate. Not everyone understands the big flashy words, so using them in your speech disconnects you with the audience. They'll be like "huh" and not understand what you're trying to say.

-Susan Pham =)

Anonymous said...

I forgot to include a couple of things in my last blog...

1. "Use the word rhetorical in a flourishing sentence that shows you understand the definition."

I used, "I was influenced by his rhetoric nature and decided to perform an act of sheer compassion."

2. "Tell us about a big talker in your life--someone who uses a flashy vocabulary and/or name drops to impress people. Does it work or just make them look goofy?"

My dad is the worst of all people I know...I know he holds a Master's in Education and two other degrees...however, his use of bombastic and superflurious language comes off as egotistical...I am laughing as I am typing this because I just used such flowery language *yay for puns*

3. "Is using big or flashy language or insider-jargon in a speech inclusive or immediate?"

-I believe this question all depends upon the context of the speech. For example, if one is presenting on the inflated costs of health care in the U.S., you would expect that person to convey significant credibility to the audience. Their speech would have to include long medical and inflationary termiology. However, it could impact the character of the speaker regardless of the context.

-Terence Kelley

Anonymous said...

1. Politicians love to ask rhetorical questions in their speeches in hope of persuading voters or to highlight an issue.

2. I used to have a friend named Katie who would always use big vocabulary. I thought verbally she was very smart and obviously was intelligent, but personally I think using such flashy vocabulary all the time can make someone come off as a snob. People might think you are intelligent with flashy language, but it might make them not listen to you in the end.

3. Big or flashy language I don't think is normally inclusive and immediate, but it depends on the audience. For example, at a medical convention, doctors might take pride in the fact of understanding complex medical speeches. It's like a code that only they understand. Other times, I think a speaker will turn off the audience with flashy language. The audience doesn't feel like they are connected with the speaker.

Kimberly Nielsen

Anonymous said...

1. Unable to resist those rhetorical words coming relentlessly to her ears, the luxurious woman accepts the salesman's offer.

2.I have a friend who is a big talker. He always uses flashy words. If I don't get them, he would make fun of me in front of my friends. Sometimes I think it's annoying because I feel like an idiot in front of a group of people. Since we are good friends, I know he is just joking around and trying to make my other friends laugh. However, if he is a stranger to me, I would think he is trying to show off and making himself look goofy.

3. I think it depends on the situation that the speaker is in. In a professional convention, uttering flashy terms is necessary for the professionals to understand the context of the speech easily. The flashy language saves time for the professionals to avoid hearing the definitions of each technical terms during the convention. In such situation, the speech is inclusive. On the other hand, if a speaker uses flashy language to a group of elementary students, the students are not going to understand. The speech is immediate because there is a barrier between the speaker and the puzzled audience members.

Ally Hsu

Anonymous said...

1. The aging Shakespearian actor in his faded pantaloons and droopy codpiece THOUGHT his passionate speeches the work of much thought-out rhetoric, but everyone else found him to be trying WAY too hard to impress.
2. My brother is a big talker, if only because he NEVER SHUTS UP. Sometimes he'll throw out big, impressive-looking words, but every now and then he comes out with a doozy that he doesn't even understand. When he uses the big words properly, he looks smarter than his age, but when he biffs it up, it's really just freakin' hiliarious.
3. Big vocabulary has gotten me in trouble no few times, because people think I'm being condescending or arrogant. The truth is that I was reading 500-page books when they were sitting on the monkey bars talking about the episode of Friends from last night. It can be taken as inclusive OR immediate, but that doesn't mean I'll stop using my natural vocabulary when people don't understand me--like the first graders I work with for my job, I'll explain what I mean to anyone else who bothers to ask for clarification.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

1. Rhetorical questions are like"It may feel hot as palm springs in Sacramento, but wouldn't it be fun to get away to see the enchanting northern lights in Alaska."These questions include the audience, so therefore can catch the audience's attention because it's not some one going blah blah blah me me me.

2.I have a friend's mom that likes to use fabulous for everything she likes. I have to admit it catches my attention when she uses the word and a lot of things she points out are "fabulous" but if she used it less she would have more impact.

3.Inclusive language includes the audience and by using terms that not everyone knows the message losses its meaning. Not only that but they think you are on some kind of pedestal and you think you are better, so they don't listen as much. Immediate language reduces the differences between people. So specific terms and sayings that not everyone will know can distance the speaker from the audience as well as dividing the audience.
Emily Manske :)

Anonymous said...

Usually when we have speakers at my work who talks about their business frequently use rhetorical questions to get our attention or persuade us into their line of business. Sometimes those rhetoric questions has nothing to do with the speech but they do get us thinking.
~My boyfriend...a Big BIG talker. Anytime he hears a new word that impress him, he just wouldnt stop usig them. Sometimes when I hear him talk, epecially to an adult he seems so intelligent. I respect that he tries to learn new vocab and also uses them. But sometimes he rally annoy's me by repeating the same word over and over. I know my boyfriend so when he uses thoses words around me I know that he is learning them by practising them with me but I swear when he users those words infront of other people he looks hella smart and I dotn know about other people but he sure does impresses me.

~I think its immediate. Sometimes I dont understand myself when speakers use fancy words which sometimes doesnt deliver the message the speaker wanted us to know. Not everyone is familiar with every words which creates the barrier between the auidience and the speaker. Fancy words does makes you look and sound better but sometimes its worth nothing if the message doesnt get across.

Visha Prakash ;)

Anonymous said...

1.This random guy named Ted used hi retoric languge to sell a group of teens burnt cookies.

2. When people use big flashy words it makes ME feel dumb sometimes, because I dont know what the hell they're talking about. But yess when you try too hard to impress people you do look dumb. My friends exboyfriend tried to impress her parents by trying to sound "smart",so he used words he cant define or spell, and made a fool of him self.He kept repeating words so he'd sound eduducated, but when my friends father asked him what one word ment he made up a definition that had nothing to do with the word....and they looked up the term ,in front of him, and read it out loud. He had offended her parents and no one knew that but her father. But the funny thing is that he was trying so hard that he didnt even realize wut he was saying.

3. I think using flashy words is immediate because not every one in the audience understands, and then the message will become unclear.

=] Charlene Eaton [=

Anonymous said...

1. Rhetorical questions are highly effective in invoking a thorough thought process.

2. My mom has phases where she will use big words. While I know that she is trying to keep an expanded vocabulary, it's normally unnecessary when she's just talking to me. Of course, it;s much more effective when she's at work and needs to be professional, but I don't understand half of the words when she's saying them to me so she might as well just use the simpler versions since she ends up having to define the complex words anyway.

3. I think it's definitely immediate because inclusive language would probably be simpler to ensure that the audience knows what's at stake.

-Ariana

Anonymous said...

To be Rhetorical is the art of speaking well to others.


My son who is 13 years old, use flashy words and I think it sounds cool! Sometimes he uses words I'm not familiar with so I have to ask him "what do you mean by that?" Oh mom dont you know what that means? Then he'll tell me, do your self a favor and stay in school.

LeeAnne Alvarado

Anonymous said...

They permit him to leave their poltical taste ungratified, provided that he gratifies their rhetorical sense.
I knew of a person who uses big vocabulary words. In a way, he seem smart because of his vocabulary words. Sometimes talking to him felt boring other times, his words were interesting. So, it worked sometimes and other times, it feels goofy.
I think using big flashy words can be more of immediate. Giving a speech with big vocubulary words can make your audience confused of what the speech is about.

Linh Phan

Anonymous said...

My sister and me always use rhetorical comments on each other. I have a friend who loves using big words, but it makes him look dorky. It works on people who speak the same way other people think that he just full of it. I would agree with Daniel about the comment of inclusive language.

Tatyana Gidenko

Anonymous said...

Bush was rhetorical about his speech, so he changed the whole speech to a different topic

My mother and uncle are both people that use big vocabulary and yes i do think wording makes a difference if you know the definition of the words your using.

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