OVERVIEW:
Hi Gang! Awesome informative work--Congrats to all who made it through that fire! On now to persuasion, the toughest type of speech we will tackle--but you are ready now! p176 reminds us that persuasive speeches hsoul influence attitudes beliefs or values and actions of others. Audience analysis is more important than ever! If you don't understand and know some one,how would you possibly influence them? Spend time reflecting on who your audience is...are there ways you can be inclusive and show respect to those who might feel differently than you on a subject you'd like to speak about?
P 177 reminds persuasive speakers to balance reason and emotion (logos and pathos)--In short, listeners must see that a topic matters in order to care about it, but the facts will drive the changes home! Review chapter 16 on description and emotion for stronger emotional appeals in this speech! On p 178 we see that credibility is more important when persuading as well--in addition to your introductory commentson credibility, you should refer to it during your body and conclusion as well! Also review Maslow on human needs to address your crowd with pinpoint accuracy! Back up claims with strong evidence! (P181). Understand facts, values and policies in terms of claims your speech will forward (p182).
In your closing comments, briefly address counterarguments or rebuttals. These are the primary nay-sayers against your attempt to persuade, found in the media or populus at large. In just a few sentences, acknowledge the other side and gently, gently, respectfully, discredit it by repeating your thesis and reviewing strong main points before ending your conclusion memorably! Avoid fallacies and be as organized as possible (186-187) . Also, it is important to stress and integrate 3 oral citations during the body of your speech, clearing signposting these moments with phrases such as "According to __________ in 2005, metal is really hard!"
Your revised outline appears below. Outlines are due early for this speech, for 10% of your persuasive speech grade!
For this blog post a question you have about this assignment which you and your classmates can really benefit from. Extra credit for offering input to others who post constructively!
OUTLINE:
1.Introduction
A. Attn Getter (More than just a question/answer. Go sophisticated!)
B. Purpose (To persuade) +Thesis (Main Idea (Claim) including the word should or another imperative)
C. Preview of 3-4 main points which narrow and focus the thesis
D. Credibility: Expertise
E.Connection: Why this matters to us and to you, how we all can benefit from your speech
Transition: A clear 2 part "Now that ________ let me take a look at ________"
2. Body (Include 2 strong visual aids)
A. Main Point One (Claim from the preview above supported by examples,experience, research and or facts that serve as evidence) Oral citation 1 and visual aid 1
B-D...Repeat 3 or 4 times, including a reminder about credibility
3. Transition to closing
A. Rebuttal/acknowledge other side using conclusive language AND credibility reminder (ie: Before I wrap up, let me say there is a movement out there to ignore global warming, that it is "not true")
B. Review the main points (claims) and restate the thesis (Major claim)
C. End memorably (Higher expectations this time)
Include reference page at end of typed outline using APA or MLA
Speech is 6-8 minutes, 2 copies are required on your speech day --one for each of us.
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I had a question about how I should go about my rebutal part of the argument. I am afraid I will go to far in it and totally ruin my argument.
Camille, you should let me edit your rebuttal and i can help you so you do not ruin your argument! No seriously. There is nothing worse than discrediting your argument by agreeing with and persuading people to agree with the rebuttal.
On to my question.... I am really having a hard time with my topic. I want to persuade people about smoking cigarettes and i am stuck on where i want to go with my argument. Should i talk about why i think it is horrible, which is obvious- cancer, secondhand smoke, ect. Why it is bad for the environment? I don't really know. Help please
Tiffani Scott
Tiffani, just remember you don't need tons of reasons because you still have the rebuttal part. And the topic of why its bad is really broad. Go at it from an unexpected angle, like how it has been falsly portrayed in media or something. My only advise would be if you do choose one of your two ideas, make sure you hit 3-4 main points that wont leave room for many rebuttals, know what I mean. Either way, I know you'll do great and I hope this helped!
Does anyone have any other interesting ways to start an introduction besides asking questions (Without giving your intro away of course).
CJ Mendez
Cj, you could use an interesting visual or even begin with a story... Question introductions are not very original. Be creative.. Try something different cj! And my question is, what happens if I don't have much real information.
Natasha,
Just do some research on your topic, im sure that you will find some real information on it.
How do I avoid creating an informative speech without using a lot of emotional language by balancing reason and emotion? I want to be more persuasive than pleading.
For everyone that is having trouble with introductions, I am starting mines with facts and a visual aid to get me in the door to grab the audiences attention.
Tiff Spliff I am not sure what our population of smokers are in class but everyone knows someone that does and to Join a coalition/group against smoking would be a better persuasive topic because I can bet that there are little to none in our class in a group like that. It would be interesting to see why I should join such a group. Just an Idea.
Hey Everyone!
I was just wondering....I'm doing my speech on Excessive drinking, and was wondering if anyone is doing something close to what I'm doing (I need to know before Tuesday-that's when I present)?
Also, what types of visual aids can we use? I know of the powerpoint, and bringing something in (ex: a book) but what else is there?
Towards everyone: I think you just need to be careful that you aren't "strongly attached" to your topic. Care about it, but make it so you aren't pounding everyone to believe/think a certain way
Chris:
Try to stay away from pleading/begging language. Pretend like you're imposing (sp) on someone and you think they should think the way you do (Whatever your topic is) by using assertive language. Try to appeal to emotional aspects (that you believe to be appropriate to the class) and go on from there. The main difference, is the language/wording you use, as well as how you present them.
Hope that helps!
CJ:
Some ideas could be:
~Quotations
~Setting the scene (like Rachel or Maria in their Informative speaches)
~Elaborate Questions (Not simple ones)-that involve actual thinking
~Visual aid
~Dance/song that relates
~Something funny/relates but not necessarily perfect (think of my "magic trick" with the rabbits)
Hope that helps!
Ok, everyone who is asking about your attention grabber...maybe you could tell a story and lead up to your topic, for example, if your speech is on drinking coffee, you could start by "Everyone close your eyes and imagine your asleep when all of a sudden, your alarm goes off at 6am, on a cold november morning, and your still extremely sleepy, you really don't want to wake up, but then the most wonderful aroma tickles your nose, now all you can think about is this sweet warm, completely irrestible sensation running down your throat, you open your eyes and someone is holding a hot and fascinating cup of coffee!...I don't know if thats much help but I WANT SOME STARBUCKS RIGHT NOW! hehe
Ok so my question to all of you guys is...how can I make my speech about the topic and not so much about me and my opinions? I'm really passionate about my speech but I want to make it so much more about outside sources but it always seems to come back to my opinion, can't help it!!!! HELP PORFAVOR!!!
Thanks!
-Maria Perez
Natasha,
you should research your topic to get real information on it! remember to use credible sources and no wikipedia!
Tiffani Scott
Cj,
Thanks buddy! hopefully i can figure this out. I am going towards the angle of advertising sponsored by the tobacco companies... In order to have an interesting attention getter you can tell a story, say something surprising/interesting, or use a visual that is unexpected!
Tiffani Scott
Chris,
Thanks for the help buddy! I am working on it... We will see what happens. If you are trying to persuasive instead of pleading use imperative language. Like we must, have to, and avoid saying please. If you demand something you can't be too nice about it. Act like there is no other choice to make except yours!
Tiffani Scott
Hi Camille--For the rebuttal: just one remark begining the conclusion to say, now that I have made my points, I'll briefly acknowledge the other side: Some people disagree, etc....but as I review my main points, you'll see that my view is better supported....SANDRA
Tiff the environment angle is more refreshing and novel of a take on the arument, we all do know it is bad for us--I'd go for less understood side effects and the environment--doesn't smoking make some men impotent? That seems persuasive! SANDRA
CJ--Use a string of startling statistics or a short video clip to grab attention!
YOU GUYS ROCK, GREAT INTERACTION THIS WEEK!
Hi everyone,
I initially thought about writhing about the benefits of sleep but that was more on the informative side. Sandra suggested I talk more on persuading all to get more sleep. I guess that was my though too. I just wasn’t getting the right wording because if you knew the why and the why not’s then maybe we’d all want to get more sleep.
My question(s) is since we need to do all sorts of research how do we know if an on-line site is credible? I found a site that claims to be a national foundation, should I just take their word for it, is that enough for the purpose of this presentation?
-Lilia
I am not sure what type of visual aide I should use for my speech especially for the body paragraphs???
Sonal Chand
How can I make a memorable conclusion for my topic,green tea? And I am stuck with the attention getter
Nhi Hoa
I actually have a couple of questions. One is the same as Camille's. My persuasive speech is on Mixing Alcohol with energy drinks. I was trying to think of another rebuttal other than every person may experience this kind of drink differently, so not necessarilly will every person who has that kind of drink will experience any dangerous side effects. Second question is can someone further explain what a fallacy is?
Tara Scalese
Tara:
A fallacy is an error of reasoning.They can be seen as (1)reasons that seam logical but don't necessarily support the conclusion or (2) statements that distract listeners from the real issue.
Ha! My critical thinking teacher would be so proud. :) Lol.
BTW, that's from the critical thinking book (We actually went over fallacies last week)
Hope that helps!
Hoa:
Besides looking at the title of the website, look at the url & see what it's called.
Ex:
...com.
...edu.
...org.
Some sites are better then others and you can just look the url.
Hope that helps!
My bad. That last one was directed to Lilia
Sonal:
Just think about what you're presenting to the class in your body paragraphs. Match up related pictures/visual aids to that to whatever you're talking about.
Hope that helps!
Out of curiousity, what do you guys think I should do better in my speeches (compared to my last speach and for future ones)?
My question is how do you persuade people not to do something harmful, when they are generally aware that it's harmful and do it anyways? Rachel
Hoa: you can find an extreme testimonial, i'm sure someone will claim green tea has drastically changed their life somehow.
Lilia: if your website is credible it should have an "about us" section at the very top or the very bottom of the page. It's usually located next to "contact us". Credible sites are usually willing to give info about who made the site, why, and their credentials.
IDk if its just me mixing myself up but with all the talk about argumentative speeches im lost. The speeches tue night were awsome but mine is alot more pushy wheres the line at with argumentative and persuasive?
to the last poster...
just by throwing in the statistics should scare ppl at a good enough rate. graphics also help.for example like as kayla had shown us pictures of a healthy liver and a non healthy liver!!! now that was scary!!! I can only imagine what my liver looks like!!! i was a drinker always going out at one point...every wknd. at the age of 18...and my body wasnt fully done developing etc. :( bad choices i made and continued to make even as i had turned 21! but slowed down on the drinking..haha. now look at me. pregnant and i cant drink at all! which is fine by me!
so yeah, you can persuade with the statistics of how something increases each year and show some graphics. the floor is always open for ppl to still not have changed their opinion on an issue. but your job had been done to persuade a person by showing them the harm that ex:drinking does to possibly your liver and social life (not everyone dies in a car accident) wow, that was a real eye opener for me w/kaylas speech. not only that but my uncle had gotten into a car accident..drinkin and driving. he hit a telephone pole and went flying out through the windshield bc he wore no seatbelt. they had to take tissues and muscle from his leg to put on his face. and he also now has plates in his head. he gets terrible migraines during the winter..and he could no longer work at a welding job...he now works for sobe. he still drinks...which scares me and my family. but that happeneing to him you'd think a person would learn from mistakes...he kinda didn't. However, it does save me from ever thinking of drinking and driving. I will never drink and drive.
-Monique Diez
Im kind of suck on how to grab my audiences attention in the beginning of the speech... ive heard so far tell a story or ask a question those are basically all ive really heard so far ... i want a fresh new idea to make my speech more intresting...HELP!!!
-Michelle
OPPSSSSyyyy daisy i meant stuck lol sorry
-michelle
The hardest part for me is the attention getter. I don't know how to start for my topic, especially for persuasive topic. I also want a memorable ending, so every one can remember my speech when they talk about my topic. This is hard!!!!
--- >> Trang Duong
Lilia your outline and topic are interesting and I really like the angle, most people think they need to get more done! I was just suggesting wording it in a positive way but if you feel comfotable wording it differently go right ahead--the class will enjoy it!
Maria--A speech about your feelings can be very compelling aslong as it is supported with a variety or credible research!
happy thanksgiving u guys! ok byeeee
-kaval
happy thanksgiving u guys! ok byeeee
-kaval
Lilia,
In a driver's education class we learned that many accidents are not because of people drinking and driving but more because people are not getting enough sleep. The more days in a row that you get 5 hours of sleep or less the more likely you are to have a car accident. It was really interesting and I am pretty sure you can use it for your speech. If you have any questions feel free to email me.
Tiffani Scott
Hoa,
For a memorable conclusion or a great introduction you can have everyone taste it! It is amazing hot or cold...
Tiffani Scott
thorough knowlegde of a topic can ease up the criticism and therefore make the rebutal more complex and hard to neglect.
saihra nagin
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